raff4201 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

much PROPS to norton, hes a TRU WARRIOR !!!!!

billyposter (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Angelo Dundee has talked shit for 50 yrs. Watch 'When we were Kings' for proof. Yes be my guest and "tell Pac" that hes achieved fuck all moving up to welter from fly lol

ztztzyzy (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

you're full of it. if you did any research, you would know that ali was never serious in the gym (per angelo dundee). fact is, holmes avoided page, dokes, coetzee (making a lame ass excuse about apartheid), tate, etc. to be the best you have to beat the best. leroy jones?? lucien rodriguez?? i'll "try telling pacman" that he fought a washed up oscar....

billyposter (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Holmes was owning Ali in sparring for the Foreman fight, 1 yr after turning pro. Try telling Pacman that size matters. Valuev in most eyes just lost to a 46 yr old Holyfield!

ztztzyzy (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Shuddup. Holmes didn't fight the best available contenders during his reign and lost to a blown up light heavyweight! He fought the puny (Leon Spinks), the old (Ali, who in his prime would've handed Holmes his ass), the overrated (Cooney), the bums (LeDoux), the unknown (Rodriguez, Jones) the inexpierenced (Witherspoon), etc. etc.....

hotspursnyper (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

So true

berobass92 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

norton fought like a hero

batmanboyman (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Not sure what you mean by playstation 2. Lewis had more than height, he had reach and weight over Holmes. Holmes is the same size as Haye. Look at Haye next to Lewis -big difference. Size does matter. Look at Valuev -all he has is size and he has won a pile of fights. Holmes was knocked down twice as many times as Lewis. And Lewis never, never lost to a little munchkin like Spinks. The expression "reach and height and weight advantages" would exist if they were not advantages.

billyposter (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

'All things considered equal' doesnt apply to boxers, its not playstation 2. The height advantage for Lewis would be no factor at all. The Holmes jab would be a problem for Lewis all night long and that's how long Holmes threw his jab. Holmes arm length is just about the same as Lewis - Lewis might knock Holmes down, but Holmes would get up. I can't say the same for Lewis and Lewis would be knocked down as well. Holmes faster hands, better jab, better chin and much better stamina would prevail.

Luisezuniga (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

both were champions. Norton just came around at the wrong time in an era when the heavyweight division was stacked. Great fight.